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Mmm, humans. Just because someone is different, we have to persecute them. Oi vey...

Thanks to religion.

That does seem to be the most notable and consistant, but it can be anything.

Thanks to the religion of the victims.

These people are persecuted and killed because of their religion.

Happens in Saudi-Arabia, Iran, and secular China.

It's the other's religion that tells them to do it. Except China. (At least that's how they interpret it.)

The fact that Christianity, Judaism and other indiginous religions survived Islam in the middle east while no European religion survived Christianity tells me that Islam has not traditionally told people to kill Christians or Jews.

China's secular ideology, like Stalin's, on the other hand speficially and always demanded persecution of Christians (and Jews and Muslims).

Hardly. No evil Muslim or fanatical branch of Islam has ever come close to matching the crimes of secular dictators like Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao. And neither did fanatical Christians.

I didn't know it was a contest. 

From what? The prosecution rests.

Crusades, beheadings, hitler, abortion clinic bombers? You can't pin it solely on secularists Leauki, to do that would be irrational and prejudiced.

I actually have a story on my personal email that I can't really share with you, but I wish I could.  It's a prayer chain message from one of our missionaries.  Everything in the letter is coded.  No names and places are fully mentioned. 

It's about a young girl (Muslim) who converted to Christ.  A young man wished to marry her and when she said no, he reported her new found faith to her family and anyone who would listen.  She's now in very grave danger.  Her family beat the tar out of her telling her to recant.  She would not.  She was put in a closet with no food and water until she recanted.  She was in there for days.  Her own family!!

There's more but that's all I can share.  It's a very grave situation that gets played out all over time and time again.  It's going to get worse as things really start to heat up. 

It just goes to show you the lengths that people will go to in the name of their faith, or lack thereof. Hopefully the girl will be safe (well, safer).

Be well, ~Alderic

The most famous abortion clinic bombers were not Christians.

Hitler was a secularist, not a Christian.

The crusades killed FAR fewer people than Mao or Stalin.

1. Your point? Who cares who the most famous one was. This isn't some popularity contest. Point stands that it was still done by those who were/are religious. Some people even threw in their support for it.

2. Actually he professed faith frequently.Whether or not he truly believed it, i don't know. The evidence shows that he did profess a faith (a somewhat aryan form of christianity namely). In fact, hitler openly condemned secularism and atheism.

3. The point isn't who killed the most or who is more popular Leauki. The problem I'm having is that to imply that secularlists are the most prone (or whatever) to such crimes, comes off as irrational. Personally, I find it to be utter crap. It comes down, in my observations, to the mindsets of the individuals - whether they are religious, secularist, or purple.

I just don't see your point. Care to go further?

If that isn't the point, why did you state that religion is the "most notable and consistent" reason for such violence?

And suddenly, when it is pointed out that secular murderers have been much more violent, it's not the point any more.

Weird.