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Published on May 31, 2010 By Leauki In War on Terror

Turns out ten people died this morning in the Middle-East.

No big deal, right? Deaths happen in the Middle-East all the time, right? Just think of the Darfurians, who are being slaughtered by the tens of thousands or the remaining Jews in Yemen whose houses were regularly firebombed until they escaped last year. So what's different this time? Why would I even mention ten deaths?

Well, turns out today people died.

Not blacks, not Jews, but people.

I expect this tragedy to be well-covered by the regular media so I won't have to comment much.

 

Update:

The Jews are even craftier than I thought.

The distance between Cyprus and Israel is 227 nautical miles (apparently some 260 land miles).

International waters start 200 miles off the coast. Maritime borders are otherwise drawn roughly between the adjacent countries.

There are no "international waters" in the Mediterranean:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Internationalwaters.png

But the Israelis somehow managed to board a ship in "international waters". That's extremely nasty.

 


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on Jun 02, 2010

Beat me to it, Leauki.  Yep, it's all about the humanitarian aid, you see.

on Jun 02, 2010

Hi Leauki,

Finally, I'd really like to know if you think that Israel could send a flotilla to land in Iran which goods for the Sunni rebel groups in the south-west without Iran attacking it and firing at the crew if they fight back. Do you think that countries generally let merchant ships deliver goods to countries they are war with? I really don't remember such a case.

A couple of things-

Your analogy is flawed because

a) the goods would need to be destined for all the people of Iran, not just one little portion of guerilla fighters- this is because the convoy destined for Gaza was intended for the people of Gaza and not explicitly Hamas

Iran would need to be blockaded by another sovereign state, let's say Iraq for example

c) It has been explicitly covered under international law that there is a distinction between humanitarian aid and military aid to another country. The aid destined for Gaza was clearly humanitarian, again, things like building supplies, laundry detergent and food for the civilian populace.

Even if you are at war with another country, denying supplies to the civillian populace is a crime.

 

But as with all things the proof is in the pudding- and here's what I think will be the most interesting test..... on board the flotilla were about 60 journalists from registered news agencies.

The real test will be if Israel releases these journalists -with- their recording equipment and tapes intact, no censoring, no confiscation or erasing of their recordings. If Israel does that, I will have a lot more respect for them.

However, I fear that they will do their usual and release the journalists minus their tapes so that the real truth does not get out!

 

 

on Jun 02, 2010

c) It has been explicitly covered under international law that there is a distinction between humanitarian aid and military aid to another country. The aid destined for Gaza was clearly humanitarian, again, things like building supplies, laundry detergent and food for the civilian populace.

Even if you are at war with another country, denying supplies to the civillian populace is a crime.

This wasn't the goal of the flotilla operation.  Its organizers have proudly proclaimed that the intent from the very beginning was to break the naval blockade or provoke a clash with Israel, using humanitarian aid as a pretext, the amount of which on board was trivial compared to what regularly moves into Gaza by land with Israel's blessing (delivery of which has now been refused by Hamas).  They could have easily accomplished delivery of humanitarian aid by proceeding to Ashdod, but that was not their reason for being there.  It was to provoke a confrontation which was inevitable and successfully accomplished.

If humanitarian aid is the only issue, why bother with this little skirmish when humanitarian aid can be delivered with ease via Ashdod?  The aim was to see if they could establish & legitimize a means to deliver weapons & munitions unfettered by Israeli security.  If Israel didn't stop them, primary mission accomplished; if Israel did stop them, alternate mission accomplished, with the reliable aid of the idiot media & anti-semitic regimes.

on Jun 02, 2010
on Jun 02, 2010

It has been explicitly covered under international law that there is a distinction between humanitarian aid and military aid to another country.

Yes. And Israel has the right to check the goods to make sure they are indeed humanitarian aid.

This is exactly what Israel has done. And the goods have now arrived in Gaza.

 

The aid destined for Gaza was clearly humanitarian, again, things like building supplies, laundry detergent and food for the civilian populace.

Your X-ray vision must be better than mine. I had only the word of a Turkish terrorist group.

 

Even if you are at war with another country, denying supplies to the civillian populace is a crime.

Not the issue here. Israel is not denying supplies to the civilian populace.

This is about stopping a ship to check the goods. It was never about stopping the supplies.

Stop changing the subject!

 

 

on Jun 02, 2010

I thought Glen Beck summed up the background on the "humanitarians" pretty good this evening. If you missed it check it out later tonight or record it.

on Jun 02, 2010

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/biden-israel-right-to-stop-gaza-flotilla-from-breaking-blockade-1.293833

I found this mentioned by several news sites, including Bloomberg.

If it is true Obama and Biden have just earned their first badge for standing up to the world.

In an interview with Charlie Rose, Biden pointed out that Israel had given pro-Palestinian activists the option of unloading their cargo at the Ashdod port, and offered to bring it to the Gaza Strip on their behalf.

"They've said, 'Here you go. You're in the Mediterranean. This ship -- if you divert slightly north you can unload it and we'll get the stuff into Gaza,'", he said. "So what's the big deal here? What's the big deal of insisting it go straight to Gaza? Well, it's legitimate for Israel to say, 'I don't know what's on that ship. These guys are dropping… 3,000 rockets on my people.
 

"Look, you can argue whether Israel should have dropped people onto that ship or not  -- but the truth of the matter is, Israel has a right to know -- they're at war with Hamas -- has a right to know whether or not arms are being smuggled in."
During the interview, Biden also blamed Hamas for the crisis that has wracked the coastal territory and for the ongoing state of conflict with Israel.

"As we put pressure, and the world put pressure on Israel to let material go into Gaza to help those people who are suffering, the ordinary Palestinians there, what happened? Hamas would confiscate it, put it in a warehouse [and] sell it.
 

"So the problem is this would end tomorrow if Hamas agreed to form a government with the Palestinian Authority on the conditions the international community has set up," Biden told Rose.

The good thing is that Obama has street cred among the idiots. When his administration says something, most liberals will think it's true. And if facts come from someone who isn't George W. Bush, they can indeed be appreciated.

When Obama defends Israel and the west, I prefer him over Bush; not because I think he does a better job as such (he does not*), but because he in untouchable by the mainstream left.

 

*For example, as I mentioned before, he ignores the plight of Africans where REAL poverty and REAL oppression are rampant. George Bush increased aid to Africa and his administration worked out peace treaties in Liberia and southern Sudan. Obama has ignored Africa and was widely criticised by African human rights groups who had found an ally in George Bush.

 

on Jun 02, 2010

TheBigOne
Leauki being at War is a very legal term requiring a formal declaration of War and can only happen between recognized states, as Gaza isn't recognized by Israel as independent state at all they can't be at War, in a sense which allows them to have a blockade, with them.

And additionally to that you can't extend a blockade to areas outside your territorial waters as long as you are not in war with the countries you are operating therein. Why didn't Isreal just take the normal approach to search a ship, instead of having this badly planned commando action. They wanted to avoid pictures and video footage taken in daylight, but a normal ship search wouldn't give exactly good propaganda material to the activists.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???? War and blockades are not necessary correlated!  Big One, were we at war with Cuba during the Cuban Blockade?

BIG FAT NEGATIVE!  North Korea has a blockade, are we at war with North Korea?

on Jun 02, 2010

The next blockade runner is coming and as usual the peace activists" promise they come in peace and won't resist IDF soldiers:

The activist said those on board were coming "in peace", and that they would not resist IDF soldiers if they insisted coming on board. 

But their tone has changed:

"We are not afraid, despite what happened on the Marmara," said Derrick Graham, who is on board with wife Jeanie. "The violence there was a product of fear, I saw the fear in the eyes of the soldiers. You need to send your veteran soldiers, not the young ones."

Hearing the "peace activists" themselves defending the IDF is a remarkable change.

I don't for a moment think that somebody who wastes money on bringing ever more goods to Gaza while Africans are starving really has a conscience, but I do think it is likely that they are afraid of something. Something has changed. I already pointed out that the tone in some media outlets had changed. Something is going on.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3898334,00.html

on Jun 02, 2010

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???? War and blockades are not necessary correlated!  Big One, were we at war with Cuba during the Cuban Blockade?

A blockade is actually an alternative to war.

You can either have the enemy get weapons and fight it out, or you can stop the weapons and nobody has to fight.

 

BIG FAT NEGATIVE!  North Korea has a blockade, are we at war with North Korea?

Yes. Although there is a cease-fire which North-Korea periodically breaks.

South-Korea is in more danger than Israel.

 

 

on Jun 02, 2010

I thought Glen Beck summed up the background on the "humanitarians" pretty good this evening. If you missed it check it out later tonight or record it.

I have no television.

 

on Jun 02, 2010

Arty, do you know who is Suha Arafat is?  Suha Arafat, she is the in the TOP 20 WEALTHIEST WOMEN in the world.  Where did she get all of this money? 

Suha Arafat, widow of the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, withdrawn tens of millions of dollars’ worth of investment from Tunis, prompting the Tunisian authorities to strip her of the Tunisian citizenship.  She was investing in hotels over there.   Where did this money come from?  She has inherited millions of millions of dollars.  I don't think you break the top 20 list by being the PA President.  I don't think pays in millions of dollars, so where did this money come from?  She lived in five-star Bristol Hotel in Paris that goes for about $16,000 a night while holding 19 rooms to herself, before she bought her nice little villa (which I am not going to even mention how much that was.   Where did that money come from?

You keep bringing up the power plant in Gaza (Gaza Power Generating Co.).  Gaza Power Generating Company (this plant at fully working would barely fall short at suppling the power needs)  was not able to be finished because there was infideta in 2002.  Israel wanted them to finish building the plant because they would supply power and never get paid for it.  They actually offered contrustion supplies but the PA wanted money.  This hoped when they have offered medicine countless times.  They want money.

Does it seem like these people really care about anyone except for their ideology and their cause? 

If that money was used to help the people instead of the 'cause' this situation wouldn't be happening.

 

on Jun 02, 2010

I am going to go walk my dog, Gedalyah, with my Isaeli t-shirt :->

on Jun 03, 2010

this is supposedly "peace activists" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaiMjAULWn0

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10199862.stm

 

Neutrality is not only bullshit, its also evil.. Impartiality is good... what is the difference?

Lets say John doe kidnaps a 5 year old and rapes and murders her.

Biased (mother of the victim): I want to cut him up with a rusty knife.

Biased (John himself): I admit I have a problem, but I should not be held accountable for my actions.

Impartial (me): I have no stake in the case either way, but I can tell you his act is inhumane and atrocious and he deserves the death penalty, for the good of society.

Neutral (liberal): Well, bad things happened to all involved, but it is not his fault that he has a problem, he needs our help and our understanding. Certainly he can't just walk out unpunished (nod towards victim), but we cannot violate his rights by executing him or exposing him to cruel and unusual punishment (equal nod towards victimizer), if we <insert appropriate punishment here> we are no better then him, and he deserves a chance to be "rehabilitated"

EDIT: you know what, this deserves its own article about the nature of "neutrality" http://soviet-overlords.joeuser.com/article/383323/Neutrality_is_pure_unadulterated_Evil

on Jun 03, 2010

Israeli officials are standing defiantly saying soldiers had been defending themselves after they were "clubbed, beaten and stabbed" during a raid of a flotilla of Gaza-bound aid ships.

I find it interesting how the BBC state that Israeli officials "say" soldiers had been defending themselves, while showing the video that proves it. Even a proven fact in favour of Israel is merely the Israeli point of view and is to be treated as such.

I am sure that the BBC will claim that gravity is some Israeli claim when Israel says that soldiers were thrown overboard.

 

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