Here is a quote at the site.  I think it is very appropriate given the video.

 

This boy symbolized Israel. Little country, which stand bravely against millions of fanatic stupid muslims.  - sdfrty

Not true.  Germany was sinking American ships headed to England in both wars before America entered the war.  As Leauki pointed out, the ships were not in international waters, so they entered a war zone on their own.

The ships made clear their alliance with Hamas. If anything Turkey would have had to declare war on Israel before giving aid to Israel's enemy during an existing war.

The ship also was flying flags of all sorts of countries, including at least one "country" ("Palestine") that Israel is indeed at war with.

What's your point? You don't seem to have any arguments except your conviction that this must have been a crime of some sort.

As for your argument regarding war being only between two nations, may I remind you of the war against the Taliban? Are the Taliban a recognised nation? Do NATO forces refrain from attacking their supply transports because doing so would only be allowed if the enemy were a nation?

You seem to think that war is some kind of cat and mouse game where a ship can display one flag until attacked and then display another and say "Look, we are Turks now... don't shoot".

In fact, if I recall correctly flying the wrong flag is an actual war crime (in the books of laws that doesn't differentiate between Jews and others). The ship willfully participated in a war flying several flags, including one of a party to the war. So don't tell me Israel would have to declare war on Turkey first.

If I hired a ship tomorrow and broke an embargo somewhere I wouldn't be able to defend myself by claiming that since I am a German citizen and own a German flag you cannot touch me until you declare war on Germany.

 

The allies also sank Chilean ships headed to Germany in international waters. Chile was not (at that time) a party to the war and nor where Chile's ships warships. (Chile later joined on the allied side, I think.)

Of course, the US and Britain were not Jewish states, so the legality might have been quite different.

 

And The USA rightfully condemned that as a war crime. Being in non-israel waters hardly qualifies as being in a war zone either. Additionally Blockades are only legal if acknowledged by the Security Council, which this one isn't.

No, they didn't.

As I said before, Admiral Doenitz was found not guilty in Nurnberg based on Admiral Niemitz's statement that the US did the same thing to merchant ships heading to Germany.

You are now beginning to make up your own history for your narrative that Israel must have committed a crime, no matter what.

 

Says who? Now a brother may not fight a war without UN approval?

Can you find me the written law that says that the UNSC must now approve blockades? How do countries run a blockade if the UNSC doesn't like them?

And don't say "additionally" when every one of your arguments has been disproven already.

Or, alternatively, back up anything you say. Point me to these "international laws" you are referring to. You keep using them as arguments pretending that they are common knowledge but I'm afraid I am either ignorant of them or they don't exist but either way I don't know of them.

If you can find a written law somewhere that says what you claim "international law" says and can give me an example of a country following it at any relevant time, I guess you can win this discussion.

 

 

So what have we learned?

American submarines followed Japanese merchant ships and only fired at them when they entered Japanese territorial waters. This finding comes as a surprise to the Navy.

A blockade is a legal way to fight a war, but there is no war between Gaza and Israel. People in Gaza and Israel appear to imagine the violence.

But if there is a war between Gaza and Israel, a blockade is only legal if the UNSC approves it. That's why blockades didn't exist before the UN was founded.

Flying a Turkish flag next to a flag of a party to a war makes the ship untouchable. This trick is new and could have saved a lot of lives in World War 2 if it had been known.

 

I still think a population exchange would solve the problem.

The Arabs from Gaza can go to Darfur, and the Darfurians can go to Gaza.

 

Not so rightly since Doenitz was not convicted of any war crimes related to that at the behest of Admiral Nimitz.  As Leauki again pointed out, the US was sinking neutral shipping headed for Germany after they did enter the war.

The distance from Turkey to Israel is about 260 miles.  Which means there is no international water.  It is claimed by Turkey or Israel, and they were past the half way mark, so it was Israel waters.

Or are there separate rules for the US and everyone else since we claim 200 miles (except where that intersects another sovereign country's claim as in Cuba.  Or should the US just annex Cuba since it is within the 200 miles?)

Sorry, responded before reading.

I wonder when the law changed.

I asked so many people who claimed boarding enemy merchant ships is a war crime but nobody could point me to the law that said so. The UNSC also condemned Israel without pointing to the law Israel allegedly violated.



They came from Turkish-occupied northern Cyprus.

The legend about the ships being in international waters were probably invented by someone trying to fill a story with as many words as possible that would make the event sound worse.

What actually happened:

1. A few members of a Turkish terrorist organisation were killed. The IHH is a terrorist organisation per Turkish law and Turkey has in the past documented how they sent jihadis to Bosnia and Kosovo.

2. All the non-terrorist "peace activists" went home unharmed.

3. The goods arrived in Gaza after they were checked for weapons.

It would hardly be worth a mention if it wasn't about Israel.

But apparently this is a bigger crime than sinking merchant ships with submarines.




You mean get all of them at once rather than receive them boat-by-boat?

We made that mistake with East-Germany.

We could even use more current info than WWII. For example the boarding of ships during the first Gulf War. Quite far from US territorial waters. Perhaps Israel should just mine the waters, like Iraq did.

I am sure the UNSC allowed the US to do that, hence it is not a war crime.

 

Give it a few more years - no one will be left except Raul.

Hamas has now blocked delivery of the goods from the flotilla:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3898181,00.html