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Published on September 17, 2005 By Leauki In War on Terror
"Advisers appointed by Tony Blair after the London bombings are proposing to scrap the Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day because it is regarded as offensive to Muslims. They want to replace it with a Genocide Day that would recognise the mass murder of Muslims in Palestine, Chechnya and Bosnia as well as people of other faiths." -- TimesOnline


World War II has special meaning to Britain, because in World War II Britain fought for her existence as a nation as well as for the existence of Europe as we know it.

The genocide committed by the Nazis changed Europe in ways that can never be undone and that is why the event must be remembered and why the United Kingdom has a special connection with it.

Making a mockery of the event by including other events, including events that have never happened (the Palestinians, for example, still exist and their number seems to have only increased during the "genocide" they allege they were subject to), is not the right way to commemorate World War II. The Bosnians presumably deserve their own special day, but their fortunes were not as intertwined with Britain as the genocide of World War II was.

But if a need is felt to include something that happened in Palestine, then perhaps this would be the right moment to remind the world that the Arabs have tried to completely destroy Israel and drive the Jews into the sea SEVERAL TIMES since World War II. Perhaps that would constitute attempted genocide.

The day could be changed to include the attempted genocide because ignoring victims of anti-semitism after World War II could be regarded as offensive to Israelis (and possibly Germans). It would also serve to remind the world that anti-semitism did not die with Adolph Hitler.

Of course Jews might not react violently if Britain offends Israel while apparently such a reaction is to be expected when Arabs are offended.

It's a tough decision: do you stand with those who won't kill you if you don't, or do you stand with those who will?


Added later that day, after six comments:

Perhaps Muslim countries should have their own day remembering their local tragedies just as Europe has theirs.

They could have a Genocide Day that reminds them of the Palestinian genocide (which never happened) and could celebrate it in union with the Palestinians (who still exist). Never mind that the Palestinian population has actually grown during the alleged genocide and never mind that the day would commemorate an event that just never happened.

And never mind that the British Holocaust Day actually commemorates the fact that Europeans commited the great crime, not "the others" and thus serves as a reminder to us, to Europeans, to never let it happen again. The Muslim Genocide Day would merely serve as a reminder about how evil the others are. It would not prevent anything. It would serve merely as a feel-good day because it gives one the opportunity to show solidarity with Palestinians (life ones) without spending money or doing anything but remember an event (and an event that didn't happen, no less).

If the Muslim community want their equivalent of the Holocaust Day, they'd have to have a day commemorating the Arabs' attempt to destroy Israel. Not only did that actually happen but it is also something all Muslim nations have allowed to happen, like European nations did not prevent the holocaust.

And if it annoys people that it is always the Jews who are commemorated as victims; the way to change that is not to commemorate made-up events, the way to change that is to stop killing Jews.


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on Sep 18, 2005
It would also serve to remind the world that anti-semitism did not die with Adolph Hitler.

Apparently Mr. Blair thinks it did. This is not a memorial to anti-Semitism today, it is a memorial to the 6 million Jews that died in the holocaust. Removing the monument or changing it's name will not remove that fact. The insensitivity exibited by Blair is typical of many others with the attitude that this happened so many years ago, it won't bother anyone. Well, it DOES!

Of course Jews might not react violently if Britain offends Israel while apparently such a reaction is to be expected when Arabs are offended.

No, Jews will not react violently, they never do in cases like this.
In Israel, we commemorate Holocaust Memorial Day in mid May, a siren blows signalling in a minutes silece. All traffic comes to a halt and everyone stands at attention for 60 seconds. Most cars driven by Palestinians do not come to a halt, neither do most stand in silence . Why? Because many of them feel that they are lumped in with the nazis and ar blamed for the attrocities done to the Jews. This was not the case and must be said. Too much anger goes unquestioned throughout the world and all that results in is more anger.

Making a mockery of event by including other events, including events that have never happened (the Palestinians, for example, still exist and their number seems to have only increased during the "genocide" they allege they were subject to), is not the right way to commemorate World War II. The Bosnians presumably deserve their own special day, but their fortunes were not as intertwined with Britain as the genocide of World War II was.

You are right, genocide against Palesinians at the hands of Israelis never happened. There have been thousands of Palestinians killed by Israeli weapons, thousands of Jews killed by Palestinian weapons, but the fact remains that millions more Palestinians were murdered by weapons in the hands of their fellow Arabs, Jordanians in particular. These are facts that are too ofen overlooked by the present Palestinian leadership, but they are still facts.


on Sep 18, 2005
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And to Moanopeace, it was actually Tony who brought in Holocaust Memorial Day so please do not try to paint my good friend as an anti-semite.
on Sep 18, 2005
And to SPM.. it was Satans like yourself that are responsible for the holocaust in the first place.
on Sep 18, 2005
That's right Moano, satanic evil British nobles, like that famous Nazi appeaser Winston Churchill.



on Sep 18, 2005
Apparently Mr. Blair thinks it did

I've just read the link. It seems that this is a recommendation (i.e. a suggestion) from a committee that Tony Blair appointed, to which he has yet to respond, so it is a nonsense to suggest that "Mr. Blair thinks it did" or to accuse him of "insensitivity". The recommendations represent the unsurprising opinions of various British muslim groups, not of Tony Blair or his government. The British government's attitude is set out later in the article:

A Home Office spokesman said it would consider the proposals for a separate Genocide Day for all faiths but emphasised that it regarded the Holocaust as a "defining tragedy in European history". [Emphasis added]
on Sep 18, 2005
As long as JEWS never forget what happened and keep close to their heart "never again!" frack what anyone else does.
on Sep 18, 2005
If only Jews never forget, only Jews will not commit the same crime. That is perhaps why there was no Palestinian genocide.

on Sep 18, 2005
"Most cars driven by Palestinians do not come to a halt, neither do most stand in silence . Why? Because many of them feel that they are lumped in with the nazis and ar blamed for the attrocities done to the Jews."

If some or most Palestinians would not co-operate with Nazis like Saddam Hussein and that Syrian mini-dictator, would not burn down synagogues, and would not openly announce that they want to completely destroy Israel, and if those Palestinians who disagree with these views would openly announce that disagreement, I don't see how anybody could lump them in with Nazis.

on Sep 21, 2005
The fact is, most of the Palestinian "heroes" were directly linked to the Nazi regime. Nassir, and his political descendants all have the Nazis to thank. Arafat called Grand Mufti, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini A "hero of the Palestinian people". Edi Amin threatened to erect a statue of Hitler, and idolized him. He lived out his days comfortably in Saudi Arabia as an honored, pampered guest in retirement. It's no accident that most of the Arab world later chose the Soviet Union, another Jew-hating state to ally with.

If they dislike the day of remembrance, it might be because it recalls their very real ties to Nazism and its hatred of Jews.

on Sep 21, 2005
Don't forget that the founder of the Arab nationalist Ba'ath party, Michel 'Afleq got his ideological schooling in Vichy France and Vichy Syria.

Pan-Arabism is the same nationalsocialist ideology that Hitler pursued.

If Palestinians do not want to be associated with the Nazis, they must not support Nazi positions and Nazi parties or groups. It's really quite simple.
on Sep 21, 2005
Leauki == Andrew J. Brehm

The JoeUser software more or less randomly decides which name is displayed, I think.
on Sep 21, 2005
Now what about an Arab "We-tried-to-eradicate-the-Jews-and-failed" Day?

If they want their equivalent of the Holocaust Memorial Day, why not be serious about it?
on Sep 21, 2005
If they dislike the day of remembrance, it might be because it recalls their very real ties to Nazism and its hatred of Jews.
---Baker

Why should they dislike it for that reason? The Nazis had the very same goals, as far as eradicating the Jews.
They've no reason, for their part, to feel remorse for supporting the Nazis at least that far.
on Sep 21, 2005
"They've no reason, for their part, to feel remorse for supporting the Nazis at least that far."


Not sure I understand. Unless the people who are outraged have a total lack of concience, I think they most certainly should feel remorse for taking part in what the Nazis tried, and in some ways succeeded, to accomplish.

I think Hitler could look on the Middle East now and feel proud that his work is being continued, frankly.
on Sep 21, 2005
I think Hitler could look on the Middle East now and feel proud that his work is being continued, frankly.


I don't think he'd be too proud.

Hitler's ideological children are not capable of killing a few million Jews even when they almost completely surround them and totally outnumber them, have superior weapons AND the support of the international community.

And then they have to experience a Kurdish president of Iraq!
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