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Haiti is Christian.

I am convinced that Israel would send more people to help if it wasn't completely clear that if Israel sends away too much of her military, the Arab countries would attack immediately accompanied by the cheers if "peace activists" everywhere in the western world.

I went to the German Muslim site http://www.muslimehelfen.org/ (Muslims Help Org). "Haiti" doesn't even show up in a search.

They help themselves. Is that what Muhammed taught? It's a disgrace.

Actually, I was wrong. They do not even help themselves.

When the Tsunami hit Muslim countries, it was also the west and Israel who sent help first and most. Some few Arab countries spend some little money, but late and I haven't heard whether it even arrived.

They also don't give to "Palestinian" groups, unless those groups promise to hurt Jews. So I'm not seeing their great love for fellow Muslims either.

That Haiti is Christian doesn't make a difference to us, or to them.

This is also a time when the liberals  don't mind the US being the "World Police". In fact, they demand it.

I guess it is a matter of degrees.  They did help Indonesia, albeit minimally.  I do nto expect any help for Haiti.  The latter allows them to go to a mosque and say "see?  We are good Muslims", while the other can be quietly forgotten. 

A lot of people compare the Muslim world to conservatives.  In a dictionary sense they are conservative.  But in a demonstrative sense, they are very much like American Liberals.

Just wait for the first criminal band to attack foreign helpers. Liberals will take their side immediately and pretend that they represent the people of Haiti.

Thank Allah for the infidels.

They want others to do what's right. But they don't want to waste their own valuable time doing it.

The Muslim world are conservatives. But the system they are tryng to conserve is not nice. In fact the Muslim world are even "neo-conservatives" since the system they are trying to conserve has never existed.

Which is classic American Liberalism.  The terms as they are used in America have nothing to do with the dictionary definition of the words.  It is enlightening and perhaps a reason why most american liberals are so hostile to Israel.  In the Muslim world, they see a kindred spirit.

I would argue that neo-conservatism, as personified by George W. Bush, is really a more liberal version of the so-called "compassionate conservatism" of before paired with an aggressive foreign policy.

Classic American Liberalism is somewhat more isolationist.

The only things American liberals and the Muslim world have in common is racism and ignorance.

A story told by a Sudanese friend of mine:

During my conference trip two months ago, I sat next to a very friendly lady on board my flight from Chicago to DC. After landing, I took out my passport and as I opened it, she noticed the Arabic writing inside.

“Where are you from?” she asked. “Sudan” I answered. We continued a normal conversation but when it was time to disembark from the plane, she suddenly looked me straight in the eye and said something along the following lines: “You know, not all of us are like that. We’re not all like that. I never voted for him. Not once.”

She sighed. It was obvious. She was upset. There was no mystery to it. Letting me know was her way of finding some comfort.

And so she looked at me one last time. It wasn’t what she said but how she said it. “I can’t believe they prefer to kill Iraqis rather than let gays get married.”

I kept quiet for a few seconds, smiled and politely replied “I know”.

http://www.sudanesethinker.com/2007/12/17/its-time-for-some-drima-stories/

Not all of us are like that...

Indeed. Not all of "us" are.

That is why their mantra is "Ignorance is Bliss"

Turns out the Israelis were first and got a hospital up and running before the US even shipped theirs.

Naturally, non-anti-Semitic peace activists are already accusing Israel of Haitian organ trafficing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQM6-lLlrM

When it comes to Jews, allegations are proof (hence he says the IDF _has_ stolen organs from "Palestinians", not _was accused of_ doing so) and, as I was often told even here on JU, only a fanatical bigot would still defend those hospital-building warmongers.

Why is no other country giving as much as the U.S?  I'm sure a lot of those countries could afford it (afford to give way more than they did at least).  If the infrastructer does get rebuilt is it going to get rebuilt properly?  I hope this doesn't turn into the stimulus fiasco or lines the pockets of the fat cats (example Arafat).

For the PA situation, most of the population didn't get the money. Well, before 1993 (1995 is when it offically started) that is.  Before that groups could give organziation directly the money then in 1993/1995 (that's when Clinton brought in 'peace') groups had to give money to the government which would 'give' it to the organziation.  This allowed a small group of people to pocket the ALOT of the money.

Obviously, I can't say with certainty, but if the majority of the money was given to the people I don't think the PA would be as bad off as it is.  I can't say if terrorism would be triving or not.

Leauki, most of the population practices witch craft/ voodoo in Haiti, I'm not sure if that can be classified as 'christian'.  I'm guessing most will claim RC but practice voodoo or Santeria which the RC and Christians seperates themselves from.

None of my points affect your points though.  For the record Leauki, I agree with you.  You don't see the Red Cresent helping now do you? No....  Because according to the Koran, Muslims are to show mercy only to other Muslims.

I will say that Christians out give all other groups.

I hope that all of this money makes it to the Haitian people but some how I doubt that it will make it to them.  Probably somewhere of 25% or less will make it to them.

It must have really broken the bank for China and India to break down and fork over a big Million. 

The US do give the most, that is true.

But I don't have to hide. Although neither Israel nor the EU give as much as the US, per capita or in total, we are certainly closer to the US level than to everybody else's.

That's the people I meant. I don't expect the average middle-class Arab in the territories to give anything and I don't hold it against him if he doesn't. But the PA have all that money. They could give or at least refrain from taking while somebody else is a victim of a greater (and real) catastrophe not caused by a wish to wage war on your neighbour.

If the majority of the people was given to the people, there would be no war.

The individual clan leaders (who would be in charge then) have no interest in fighting anyone and just want their local rule preserved.

They are officially Christians. In fact the Catholic Church was state religion as recently as the 80s.

Maybe they will stop practicing Voodoo now. Belief in Christianity does not stop earthquakes but it does allow them to understand why so many Christian (or majority-Christian or Christianity-influenced) countries were so eager and willing to help them.

And Jews are supposed primarily to care about the Jewish people. But there is always time to help others as well.

Yes, absolutely.

While I think that Jews probably give more to charity per capita than even Christians, the majority of those charities are specifically Jewish charities.

I am actually really optimistic about this. The Haitian government is not functioning and the foreigners are basically in control of the country (in as much as it is under control). The Haitians are also, I am sure, clever enough to accept foreign quasi-rule for a while (since they think their own government was useless anyway).

And I am convinced that what the US and Europeans and others do in Haiti will be designed to help the people. The blindness affecting the west in the Middle-East does not apply in the US' backyard.

And the American Catholic Church is one of the biggest missionary organizations inthe courty.  most Churches in my area have adopted a "sister" arrangement with parts of haiti, and trips are common.

Just as Voodoo is practiced a lot in Louisiana, the majority are still practicing Christians, much to the chagrin of Pat Robertson.