A Leauki's Writings
Published on May 6, 2009 By Leauki In Religion

Continuation of a discussion at https://forums.joeuser.com/345884/page/13.


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on May 06, 2009

The Judaism before Jesus was radically different from 70AD onward through today's modern Judaism. Here's a list how.

Give  how little you know about Judaism, before and after Jesus, I will engage this only to correct mistakes and lies.

I am sure you took your description of Judaism from a non-Jewish source. Descriptions of religions written by followers of other religions are often not written to inform, but to misrepresent. It is in that spirit that I will understand your comments.

 

Biblical Judaism up until 70AD was a revealed religion, a God ordained faith, worship and way of life. Modern Judaism is man-made; has no Temple worship and does not have to be faithful to God and His laws to be considered a Jew.

Jews never had to be faithful to be considered Jews. "Jewish" is an association with a tribe, not a faith. This hasn't changed in 3300 years.

The people of Israel have been a people before Moses ever made "Judaism" into a religion.

 

Biblical Judaism is the religion of the descendants of Isreal. The children of Isreal (later called Jews) were chosen by God to be the keepers, teachers and interpreters of His law. This law included a priesthood selected from the tribe of Levi and the selection of Judah as the tribe from which the promised Messias would come to fulfill the Law. Modern Judaism doesn't fit this as they are no longer the keepers, teachers and interpreters of His law..as they have no priesthood from the tribe of Levi, no Temple, etc. as I have been saying all along.

"Jews" is not another name for "Children of Israel". "Jews" are the descendants of the tribes that settled in Judaea which again was named after one of the three tribes that settled there.

There exist non-Jewish Isarelites even today and I have mentioned them before (but you are very good indeed in ignoring new information).

Samaritans and Ethiopian "Jews" (really the tribe of Dan) are Israelites but not Jews. And the Samaritans still have priests and a high priest.

Your statement about there being no priesthood from the tribe of Levi was wrong until yesterday. But since I told you about the Samaritan high priest yesterday, your statement has become a lie.

 

Biblical Judaism as an organic religion dates from Moses, the lawgiver, through whom God instituted the religious and civil requirements of the Isrealites. An Isrealite is a person that worship God according to the Law of Moses and stems from Jacob the son of Isaac whose name was changed to Isreal Ex. 3:15. The name Isreal was given at a later date to the ten northern tribes that have disappeared 1Kings 2:28-30. ...and modern Judaism cannot physically keep the religious and civil requirements of the Isrealites. (Not to be confused with the modern nation of Isreal.)

Confuse ahead. The modern nation of Israel is the nation state of Jews, Dan, and Samaritans and any other Israelite tribes that can be found on the planet.

An "Israelite" is not a person who worships G-d according to anything, an "Israelite" is a descendant of Jacob or anyone who joined that nation.

 

 

Biblical Judaism, pure and unadulterated, is set forth in the Torah and the other inspired prophetical writings in the OLd Testament. Modern Judaism cannot physically keep the Torah.

Judaism before Jesus has also lived through two periods without a Temple. To argue that the existence of the Temple is necessary for Judaism to be true is ridiculous. There was no Temple before Solomon and there was no Temple during the Babylonian exile.

Of course your version of the story fits nicely into your claim that Zoroastrians are pagans. Since it was King Cyrus, a Zoroastrian, who rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem, you obviously cannot admit that the Temple at one time did not exist.

 


Biblical Judaism is a sacerdotal (priestly) religion. Lev. 28. Modern Judaism has no priesthood for there is no distinctive tribe of Levi nor any genealogical evidence of the house of Aaron.

That is a lie.

There is a distinctive tribe of Levi and there is genealogical evidence of the house of Aaron.

I have given you a link about the Samaritan High Priest. How can you continue to lie like that? Have you no shame?

 

BIblical Judaism's worship centers in public sacrifices, homage paid to Almighty God through priests, in sin, guilt (trespass), peace, thank and other offereings. Before the Law was given to Isreal by God, through Moses, Adam, and his sons, Abraham and his posterity, Job and Melchidedec, offered sacrifices, as everyone was priest and minister of his own sacrifices, But with Moses came the delegation of that function and power, by Divine command, to Aaron, brother of Moses, and his family descendants, the Aaronic priesthood. Modern Judaism has no temple, no priesthood, no sacrifices, no altar, etc.

The Temple point is really becoming moot.

 

Biblical Judaism was a prophetic religion. It's prophets centered in the coming of the Messias (the Christ) from the tribe of Judah, the house of David, of a Virgin, in the village of Bethlehem. Modern Judaism has no prophets as the last Jewish prophet was Malachais.

Apart from Joseph Smith, Christianity didn't have many new prophets either. Perhaps we are both wrong.

 

Biblical Judaism sacrifices of Isreal were commanded to be offered in a central place, which was in the Ohel Moeb (portable sanctuary) while in the wilderness, and later in the Temple in Jerusalem. Modern Judaism has no Temple as it was destroyed in 70AD and Jerusalem was burned to the ground.

Temple point continues to be moot.

 

Biblical Judaism first principle is belief in a transcendant, immanent, eternal God Whose oneness is stressed in its universal expression of faith, "Hear O Isreal, the Lord thy God, the Lord is One". This prayer might be the only point of unity of Biblical Judaism with modern Judaism.

Christianity, of course, does not have that first principle at all.

 

So, here are some basic, indisputable explanations of what Biblical Judaism is from the viewpoint of Mosaic teachings as recorded in the OLd Testament. Becasue the Aaronic priesthood, the Mosaic sacrifices, and the Temple came to an end in 70AD biblical Judaism differs greatly and cannot be in accord with modern Judaism. Biblical Judaism ended over 20 centuries ago with the fulfillment of the prophecies in the Birth, Life, Works, Death and Resurrestion of the promised Messias. Christianity became the reality, the completion, the fulfillment of all the holy things biblical Judaism foreshadowed.

I realise that you lie about the priests of Israel and didn't know that ancient Judaism did not always have a Temple.

Do you have any real point to make?

I can summarise your position in two bullet points:

1. Lula doesn't know about the Tabernacle and the Babylonian exile or King Cyrus.

2. Lula doesn't know about the tribe of Levi and lies about the office of the high priest which still exists among Samaritans and which she was told about yesterday.

 

I am sure there are many differenes between ancient Judaism and Judaism today, but you haven't listed any. Plus you didn't even address Samaritans, Karaites, and Ethiopian Jews. But without addressing them, how can you "prove" anything about Judaism today and then?

You don't know much about ancient Judaism and almost nothing about today's Judaism.

The only fact in your list was the point about the declaration of faith. And that point proves only that modern and ancient Judaism share their view of G-d whereas Christianity has a different view.

 

 

 

 

on May 06, 2009

THANKS FOR POSTING A SEPARATE BLOG ON THIS.

I am sure you took your description of Judaism from a non-Jewish source.

I've defended both my initial statement that biblical Judaism ended in 70AD as well as these points on differences between biblical Judaism and modern Judaism from the Old Testament, Josephus and the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Your statement about there being no priesthood from the tribe of Levi was wrong until yesterday. But since I told you about the Samaritan high priest yesterday, your statement has become a lie.

LEAUKI POSTS: #244

What "ending" of the tribe of Levi? The kohanim are still with us. And genetic studies have actually shown that they indeed share a common male ancestor a few thousand years ago.
...The Levites are alive and well, thank you very much.

 

And to that I say "that's nice"....however, none of them, not the Levites, Samaritans, etc., could ever fulfill the priestly duties in divine worship as commanded by ALmighty God in the Mosaic Church of the children of Isreal as set forth in the Torah. The biblical Judaism that's ended and the one I've been zoning in on is Temple sacrifice and worship as called for in the Book of Leviticus. Those Levites, Samaritans etc. today can't becasue there is no Temple, no altar thereby making it physically impossible to sacrifice to God just as He prescribed according to the Mosaic Law.

This is when the Mosaic Chruch or biblical Judaism as recorded in the Old Testament became a thing of historic past.

In modern Judaism and Jewry today there are no competant authorities who have a Divine commission, who are consecrated to exercise Levitical requirements according to God's divine command.

Old Testament Judaism which ended in 70AD

Biblical Judaism was, but is not now, the one and only God revealed God instituted religion. Judaism was recorded in the Old Testament and existed during the time of Moses and Aaron until Christ established the New and Eternal Covenant in His Blood.

Biblical Judaism was an organic, priestly, authoritative, revealing sacrificial religion. Its authority largely centered in the High Priest.

 
The Jewish Ecncylopedia states the high Priest "alone offered the sacrifices for the sins of the people". He officiated at the only altar the Mosaic Law permitted Ex. 20:24-25; Lev. 17:8-9. The Jewish priesthood ended during the first century with Phannias, son of Samuel, the 81st occupant of the Chair of Aaron. This happened in 70AD when the Jewish state perished when the Temple and its Altar were destroyed and "not a stone was left standing" as Jesus predicted in St.Matt. 24:2.

leauki posts:

Priests are not needed for Jews to talk to G-d. Priests are also associated with the Temple which does not currently exist.

And this has been my point all along ....that biblical Judaism ended in 70AD. What ended?...not the Jews ability to talk to God....but what ended was the priestly sacrifice and biblical Judaism, the sacrificial religion, that God stipulated in Leviticus in accordance with the Mosaic law which the Jewish Encyclopedia states the High Priest "ALONE offered the sacrifices for the sins of the people." 

 

on May 07, 2009

And to that I say "that's nice"....however, none of them, not the Levites, Samaritans, etc., could ever fulfill the priestly duties in divine worship as commanded by ALmighty God in the Mosaic Church of the children of Isreal as set forth in the Torah.

The first Temple was build hundreds of years after the Torah was revealed.

What exactly is this temple-related priestly duty you find in scripture that doesn't mention temple?

And you are again ignoring that Judaism has had two periods without the Temple before.

 

And this has been my point all along ....that biblical Judaism ended in 70AD. What ended?...not the Jews ability to talk to God....but what ended was the priestly sacrifice and biblical Judaism, the sacrificial religion, that God stipulated in Leviticus in accordance with the Mosaic law which the Jewish Encyclopedia states the High Priest "ALONE offered the sacrifices for the sins of the people."

Yes, as per the Jewish religion then and now, the High Priest offers the sacrifices for the sins of the people.

And I understand the Samaritan High Priest still offers sacrifices. So I'm not getting your point.

It looks to me like your point is that because you didn't/don't know of previous temple-less periods in Judaism and didn't/don't know of the existence of a priestly caste even today today's Judaism is not the same Judaism as it was before Jesus was born.

But I'm afraid you have to give better examples than your ignorance.

 

on May 08, 2009

Question to Lula:

If Jesus is our sin sacrifice.  Weren't all sin sacrifices 'burnt' and 'inside' the temple by Torah mandate?  If this question is true how can Jesus be our sin sacrifice if he was neither burnt (which would have made him a human sacrifice which again is a violation of Torah) nor was he killed 'inside' the Temple. 

 

on May 08, 2009

And I understand the Samaritan High Priest still offers sacrifices. So I'm not getting your point.

That may be so, but not exactly as prescribed by Almighty God in the Mosaic Law..that is not as existed in Jewry during pre-Christian times. And in addition, a Jewish religion and offering sacrifices minus a priesthood in the Aaronic line, a sanctuary a Temple and altar is devoid of the God instituted means of atonement of sin.

The Jewish encyclopedia, vol 4 pg. 125 says: "Judaism saw in the sanctuary the manifestation of God's presence among His people, and the priest the vehicle of divine grace, the mediator through whose ministry the sins of the community, as the individual, could be atoned for".

In the Siddur, "Sovereign of the universe! While the Holy Temple was established, if a man sinned, he brought an offering, and made atonement for himself; but now becasue of our iniquities, we have neither sanctuary, nor altar, nor offering, nor priest to atone for us, there is nothing left but the commemmoration of this. O may that be our expiation and we will render prayers of our lips instead of offerings."

Jewry today, with no single organized church who has no priests is left devoid of much more than the means of makiing the Mosaic called-for offering as an atonement of sin. He is left without a divinely authoritative means of knowing what shall be taught; he is left without a judge of matters of a religioous and moral nature, recorded in Deut. 17:8-12 such as his forebears were privileged to have in the days before Jesus, the Messias, instituted a universal hierarchy to teach matters of faith and morals that displaced the teaching and judging heirarchy of an exclusive people, the children of Isreal.

As for the Samaritan priest you introduced me to by way of the link....thank you.  

It helped provide me with an answer...along with the Cahtolic Encyclopedia...I better understand .....

Meet the Samaritan High Priest, Mr Elazar ben Tsedaka ben Yitzaq:

http://shomron0.tripod.com/2004/feb26.html

He became High Priest in 2004. I think you can reach him by mail in either Nablus or Holon (near Tel Aviv) in case you are interested in informing him that he doesn't exist or that the Israelite priesthood has been "replaced" by rabbis or something like that.

Mr. Yitzaq might be a Samaritan high priest, but he's not from the house of Aaron for according to your link for in 1624, the priestly succession (supposedly from Aaron) failed.

(from the link: Former High Priests

The remaining house of the sons of Phinhas, sons of Aaron, that the High Priesthood was allotted to, died out amongst the Samaritans in 1623/4. The last High Priest of this order was Shelemiah ben Pinhas (1613-24) died leaving no children to carry on the succession.)

 

 

 

The Church Fathers regarded the Samaritans as a Palestinian branch related to the Jews, but that branch came to an end as far as physically carrying out the sacrificial worship as per Leviticus and the Mosaic Law and the Aaronic priesthood. It's no more.  

 

According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, Samaritan history wasn't that great with the Jews...by the time of Christ for a Jew to call someone a Samaritan was an insult. St.John 8:48. In Jewish non-canonical writings there are few references to Samaritans, all disparaging. They were known up until the time of the early Islamic writers, 7th or 8th century, but it seems that silence fell upon their tribe until the 16th century when scholarly contacts were established.

 

on May 08, 2009

AD, you've given me something to ponder and research.

I'm going to be away from my computer over the weekend, but will comment ASAP.

on May 08, 2009

That may be so, but not exactly as prescribed by Almighty God in the Mosaic Law..that is not as existed in Jewry during pre-Christian times. And in addition, a Jewish religion and offering sacrifices minus a priesthood in the Aaronic line, a sanctuary a Temple and altar is devoid of the God instituted means of atonement of sin.

Again, the religion of Israel did not originally have a Temple nor did it always have a Temple after the first Temple was built.

 

Mr. Yitzaq might be a Samaritan high priest, but he's not from the house of Aaron for according to your link for in 1624, the priestly succession (supposedly from Aaron) failed.

That's not what the text says.

The text says that the original family of the High Priest died out and that since then the high priest is simply the oldest priest from among the Levite family. However "the oldest priest" is still a priest (aka a Kohen).

The priestly succession did not fail, merely the succession in one family failed. One family remains.

 

 

on May 11, 2009

Again, the religion of Israel did not originally have a Temple nor did it always have a Temple after the first Temple was built.

Mr. Yitzaq might be a Samaritan high priest, but he's not from the house of Aaron for according to your link for in 1624, the priestly succession (supposedly from Aaron) failed.

Leauki posts:

That's not what the text says.

The text says that the original family of the High Priest died out and that since then the high priest is simply the oldest priest from among the Levite family. However "the oldest priest" is still a priest (aka a Kohen).

The priestly succession did not fail, merely the succession in one family failed. One family remains.

Again the article has it that the line died out leaving no children to carry on the succession.  

Evidently the records are clear up until the High Priesthood of Phannias, son of Samuel, the 81st occupant of the Chair of AAron. That ended in 70AD. So, if it's as you claim and there is a Samaritan priestly succession in the order of AAron, where is the genealogical list of High Priests from 70AD to the 1600's?   

Again, I'm defining the Aaronic priesthood strictly according to the Torah of the Old Testament....which makes plain the Judaism of God is strictly of an authoritative, priestly, sacrificial character. In Leviticus 28 we read that God instituted the priesthood of Aaron of the tribe of Levi.

Before this, the first born had been set apart for the service of God, but from the time forward that Moses consecrated Aaron as High priest, only the tribe of Levi was chosen as ministers of the sanctuary and service of the Tabernacle. In other words before this, priests had been taken from all tribes and all families but now a very distinct priesthood was instituted and this is the one I'm zoning in on to make my case that biblical Judaism ended in 70AD.

The priestly office was heredity in only Aaron's family ..the first born was always to be High Priest, and the other male descendants priests. The other men of the tribe of Levi were to assist the priests in the service of God.

With the consecration of Aaron as High Priest by Moses (Exod. 28), the tribe of Levi to which Aaron belonged, was separated into 2 divisions...Kohanim High Priests who functioned at the Altar, entered the Holy of Holies once a year when the sin-offering was sprinkled on the mercy seat, and incense burned within the Veil Exod. 16. and Levite priests who assisted in the service of the Tabernacle and Temple.

Leauki, the sacredness and exclusiveness of these priests are Divinely demonstrated on the day of the consecration of Aaron when his sons, Nabad and Abihn, were consumed by fire for offering incense in an unlawful manner. Lev. 10. Every Jewish priest must belong to the tribe of Levi of the house of Aaron. The Jewish Encyclopedia says that "for priests the purity of descent was indispensable."

This is the Jewish priesthood that is no more...there is no continual distinctive genealogical evidence of the existence of the house of Aaron of the tribe of Levi. Judaism without this particular priesthood in no more the religion it was of God.  

The Temple Veil was rent in 33AD when Christ was crucified and from that moment on, God was sending a message that biblical Judaism would be no more....it was formerly ended in 70 AD when the Temple was destroyed stone by stone razed flat to the ground. The sacrificial 'cult" is no more, nor is the Jewish priest to offer a bloody sacrifice today. The sacrifice of the Old Law ceased, was was foretold, for a new Aaron--"a priest forever according to the order of Melchisedech was offering "a clean oblation."

Aaron offered calves, goats, rams, lambs, as sacrifice of the Mosaic Law, whereas Mechisedech offered bread and wine, such as CHrist offered at the last Supper on the night before He was crucified. This sacrificial offering has been continued for over 2000 years by the Catholic Chruch as Malachais predicted. So, the bloody sacrifice of the Jews is no more now that the "clean oblation" has supplanted it in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Open your eyes and see how from the rising to the setting of the sun there is offered up the Sacrifices of the Christians, not in one place, as it was ordained among the Jews, but everywhere....to the God of Isreal who predicted these things. Not according to the order of Aaron, but according to the order of Melchisedech.

 

 

on May 12, 2009

Again the article has it that the line died out leaving no children to carry on the succession. 

And the first-born is still the High Priest. So where is the problem?

 

on May 12, 2009

(from the link: Former High Priests

The remaining house of the sons of Phinhas, sons of Aaron, that the High Priesthood was allotted to, died out amongst the Samaritans in 1623/4. The last High Priest of this order was Shelemiah ben Pinhas (1613-24) died leaving no children to carry on the succession.)

The problem is the OT Mosaic requirement of the sacrificail priesthood is that at the geneaolgy linkage goes back to Aaron...and this lineage is no longer...

This first born high priest is from some other line.

 

on May 12, 2009

The problem is the OT Mosaic requirement of the sacrificail priesthood is that at the geneaolgy linkage goes back to Aaron...and this lineage is no longer...

What makes you think it isn't any more?

They had two Kohen families and one died out so the other took over. Both are direct descendants from Aaron.

 

This first born high priest is from some other line.

No, he isn't.

 

on May 12, 2009

Hey Leuki, I wanted to ask you a Hebrew question. 

Is חַטֹּאתָ֑ם related mainly to sins of sacrifices and עֲוֹנֹת֙ is mainly sins against Torah?

on May 12, 2009

Hey Leuki, I wanted to ask you a Hebrew question. 

Is חַטֹּאתָ֑ם related mainly to sins of sacrifices and עֲוֹנֹת֙ is mainly sins against Torah?

I don't know. This is a question about religion rather than Hebrew. Ask a rabbi.

What I can tell you is that "liachto" (Root is Het Tet Alef) means "to sin" and "tam" means "exhausted". I don't know what the two together mean. 3onot appears to derive from the verb "le3anoth" (Root Ayin Nun He) which means "to answer". But 3ana or 3ona do not mean "answer", instead "3ona" means "season". And that's only the words I remember.

The words you quote seem to be very old (they lack matres lectionis except for one waw). However, the niqud (vowel dots) indicate that the source is a prayer book or some such text.

Anything else is theology which I know little about.

(Don't forget that I am not religious, not an expert on Jewish theology, and not really into anything spiritual.)

 

 

 

on May 12, 2009

Question to Lula:

If Jesus is our sin sacrifice. Weren't all sin sacrifices 'burnt' and 'inside' the temple by Torah mandate? If this question is true how can Jesus be our sin sacrifice if he was neither burnt (which would have made him a human sacrifice which again is a violation of Torah) nor was he killed 'inside' the Temple.

Big picture...Salvation history is the events as recounted in the Holy Bible of Almighty God's salvific acts which deliver man from evil and reunites him in grace with God. Salvation history asserts that God has made a progressive revelation of Himself  and His will in Scripture.  History because of 1----God's salvific acts are directed toward the course of human events so that salvation begins with time (as in the first Book of Genesis) through the actual happenings wrought by God in mankind. 2---God's salvific act begun in time is brought to completion within the historic processes of human activity. 3---The saving act of God as performed in time, has past, present, and future realizations (as in the last Book of the Apocalypse).

Genesis starts with Creation and from it we learn that God's goodness to man is infinitely great. He created us in His own image with an immortal soul and the promise of eternal destiny in Heaven. He gave us the whole earth to use and yet, our first parents transgressed the command of God and sin and death entered the world…The punishment of Adam and Eve reveals the infinite justice of God. In fact, the evil consequences of their sin have passed down to the whole human race..our reason is obscured, our will is weakened, prone to disease and bitter pangs of suffering and death and no one could attain Heaven if our Divine Redeemer had not died for us…so all wasn’t lost, else there would have been total despair without Our Merciful God’s  promise of a Redeemer, a Messias.   

Almighty God wants us all to be saved and so He gave us His salvation plan... it’s a long, slow journey of God’s revelation, of following His laws and guidance. God never left us high and dry…..mankind always had a religion taught by God which falls into 4 stages.

The first stage was the religion of Adam who was taught by God directly. Stage 2 is Adam handing on down to his children the truth about God and the duty of worshipping Him by sacrifice.  Sacrifices here were visible gifts for the purpose of thanking God for the benefits already received and of imploring further blessings from Him. We see that men offered sacrifice to God from the very first…so there have been sacrifices so long as there have been men to worship Him. Sacrifice is the highest and most perfect from of worship and is essential to religion. The Catholic religion being full blossomed  Judaism is now the most perfect and holy religion because it possesses the most holy and perfect of sacrifices. This most pleasing, holy and perfect Sacrifice is Jesus Christ Himself, who once sacrificed Himself on the Cross in a bloody manner, and who continually offers Himself for us in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an unbloody manner, “a clean oblation”; the Holy Eucharist.

Cain and Abel both brought gifts to God. They offered them by burning them..by this they wished to express that they had kept nothing back for themselves; that they desired to offer them wholly to God from whom all good things come. Abel offered the firstlings of his flock and Cain offered fruits of the earth. St.Paul explains in Hebrews 11:4 that “by faith Abel offered to God a sacrifice exceeding that of Cain.” What was wanting in Cain’s sacrifice? His faith in God and in the promised of a coming Savior was not firm and living and therefore his worship of God was wanting in reverence and thankfulness. He worshipped Him outwardly, but not inwardly. The gifts which he offered were good, but the intention behind them was not. The lesson we learn from this is that God does not look merely on our outward works and gifts, but He looks especially at our intention. “The Lord seeth the heart.”

Thus Abel offered acceptable sacrifice. The traditions were handed on by Adam’s posterity, but memories faded. Still conscience always dictated what was naturally right and this period could be called the period of natural law. During this time, Almighty God gave unwritten revelations to several of the Patriarchs, over and above the natural law.

Noe (Noah) belonged to that of the Patriarchal unwritten law. And you know the story of Noe and the Ark. When the waters subsided God told Noe to go out of the Ark which he, his wife, sons and their wife did along with all the animals, etc. It’s written that Noe was “filled with gratitude”…and after more than a year in the Ark, he saw what must have been quite a scene…desolation and death everywhere he looked. With sorrow in his heart was also thankfulness in his soul that God had so mercifully taken care of him and his loved ones that he immediately built an altar of stones to the Lord and offered on it a sacrifice of clean animals.  Noe offered sacrifice to God with faith and in thanksgiving which was so pleasing that He made a covenant with him and his posterity. Our Lord Jesus Christ by His death on the Cross offered the most perfect Sacrifice and obtained for all men pardon, grace and everlasting peace.

Now comes the necessity of a supernatural or revealed religion....the majority of men fell into idolatry about 2,000 years after Creation. Yet, there were always a few just men who with their families preserved the faith in the one true God and His oral revelation.  But the true faith would have been lost unless God revealed Himself anew. Divine revelation was a necessity because even man’s natural knowledge would have been lost.

With Abraham comes the second promise of the Messias. The words, “In thee shall all the kindred of the world be blessed” contain the 2nd promise. The second promise is more explicit than the first in that it says a Divine Redeemer shall be born of the seed of Abram.

God showed Abram the land of Canaan and said to him, “to thy seed will I give this land.” Abram, showing his gratitude raised in that place an altar to the Lord. And after he and Lot decided where to go, Abram dwelt in Hebron, Abram built an altar to the Lord. In Gen. 14, we read that God blessed Abraham and gave him victory over 4 kings. As Abram returned victorious, Melchisedech, the king of Salem, (later called Jerusalem) and a High Priest offered to the Lord, bread and wine as a sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving.

Abraham’s faith was tested by God most severely when  He commanded Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. Isaac was obedient to his father and carried up the mountain the wood on which was to be the altar where he would be killed. Isaac as a sacrifice was a type of Jesus as the Perfect Sacrifice. Jesus Christ was obedient to His heavenly Father unto death, even on the Cross. “As a sheep He was led to the slaughter and like a lamb without a voice before his shearer, so opened He not His mouth.” Jesus carried up to Calvary the wooden Cross on which He was to die. In one main point though Isaac’s sacrifice was very different from the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Abraham was quite ready out of love of God to offer up his beloved son….but Almighty God would permit the sacrifice to be completed….why? …because sinful man could not be redeemed by a human sacrifice and that’s why the angel stopped the slaying of Isaac. God spared the son of Abraham but would not spare His own Son, but gave Him over to a painful death for our sakes. “God so loved the world as to give His only-begotten Son, that whoever believeth in Him, may not perish, but may have life ever-lasting.” St. John 3:16.

We see the story of Jacob and Joseph also as one of offering sacrifice. When Jacob set out for Egypt with his family he offered a sacrifice to God asking God’s protection and guidance. The resemblance of Joseph to Christ was that he forgave and excused his brothers as did our Lord hanging on the Cross forgive His enemies and pray for them. 

The paschal lamb—the departure from Egypt was a type of Jesus Christ the Paschal Lamb of God. Why did Christ Sacrifice Himself as He did?

Moses and Aaron told the people to kill a lamb without blemish and sprinkle the blood of the lamb upon the door post. We know as far as the paschal lamb that everything had to be of the best, without blemish.  Afterwards, Moses commanded the people to sanctify unto the Lord every first born of clean beasts because the Lord had spared their first born children.

According to Exod. 12:27, the paschal lamb was a sacrifice, “the victim of the passage of the Lord”. As such it was preeminently a type of our Lord in the following ways. The paschal lamb was to be without blemish….Jesus Christ is the Most Pure, the Most Holy, “a lamb unspotted and undefiled.” 1St.Peter 1:19. The paschal lamb was killed and its blood spilt; Jesus Christ was slain for us on the altar of the Cross and shed all His blood for us. Of the paschal lamb, no bone was to be broken, contrary to the usual custom with those crucified, not one of Our Lord’s bones was broken. Through the blood of the paschal lamb, the Israelites were saved from temporal death, and through the Precious Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, we are saved from spiritual death of sin, and the eternal death of Hell. The paschal lamb therefore foretold that the future Savior would be unspotted, that He would sacrifice Himself for us; that He would give His life and Blood for us; that not one of His bones would be broken and that we, through His Sacrifice would be saved from death.

 Satisfaction was made to the Divine Justice by our Lord Jesus Christ, because each act of expiation, Jesus being God, had an infinite value.

There is no salvation except through Jesus Christ. The blood of the paschal lamb obtained mercy for the Israelites and saved them from death, only because it was a type of the Redeemer of the world. Its atoning and saving power did not lie in itself, but came from the blood of Jesus whose sacrifice and death were prefigured by the death of the lamb. The Israelites because they sacrificed the paschal lamb and sprinkled their houses with its blood having faith in the future Redeemer, were spared by reason of that faith.

The 3rd stage came with Moses….After the remultiplication of the human race from Noe, and even though Noe had faithfully delivered to his descendants the oral revelation of God handed down by Adam, men followed their evil inclinations and their faith became weakened. They again began to forget God and God gave Moses a clearer exposition of his religious duties to be put into writing.  This is known as the stage of the written law or that of the Mosaic religion. This is what I have been zoning in and discussing with Leauki. All first born sons were consecrated to God to be the priests of the family. Soon after this, the tribe of Levi was substituted for the first born.

We learn from Jesus that “salvation is from the Jews.” How? Through biblical Judaism!

The 4th and final stage is God’s revealed religion (biblical Judaism) perfectly fulfilled in every detail by Jesus Christ, who gave the more perfect and eternal law –Christianity—which only the Catholic Church teaches in its fullness and on Christ’s promise will teach until the end of the world.

on May 12, 2009

Question to Lula:

If Jesus is our sin sacrifice. Weren't all sin sacrifices 'burnt' and 'inside' the temple by Torah mandate? If this question is true how can Jesus be our sin sacrifice if he was neither burnt (which would have made him a human sacrifice which again is a violation of Torah) nor was he killed 'inside' the Temple.

Another thing that just came to mind is in Exodus where the Lord God appeared to Moses in a flame of fire which came from the middle of a bush. Moses saw that the bush was on fire and was not burnt. And he went to the bush to see why it wasn't burnt...turns out God was crying out to him from the bush. So evidently, God does not want to be seen as burnt....as since Jesus is God, then perhaps that's another reason He didn't get burnt.  Just a thought!

 

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