Annapolis - What are the Arab positions?

Arab countries are meeting with Israel and the US to talk

Published on November 28, 2007 By Leauki In Current Events

1. Taking land in a war is illegal.

2. Israel should have been invaded and become part of an Arab state.

3. It is unacceptable for an Arab minority to live in a state with a Jewish majority.

4. It is acceptable for Jews to live in Europe or America.

5. The Arab refugee problem is a real tragedy and must be part of any solution to the Palestine conflict.

6. It is acceptable to talk about the Palestine conflict without mentioning the Jewish refugees from Arab countries.

7. Israeli attacks that kill civilians are war crimes.

8. Suicide attacks against shopping malls and kindergartens are a legitimate weapon in a war against an occupying power.

9. Palestinian Arabs must not be forced to live outside their ancient homeland’s 1948 borders because forcing someone out of their home country is a big crime indeed.

10. All Jews should be thrown into the sea or deported to Europe and America.

11. It is perfectly acceptable for Mecca to be ruled by one group only with no access allowed for members of other religions.

12. Israeli control of Jerusalem is a crime against the Palestinian people.

13. A Jewish state is a racist concept as it promotes one group at the expensive of another.

14. Jews living in Palestine are not Palestinians.

Comments

Leauki

on Nov 28, 2007

Thanks for featuring.

The trick here is that any one of these points could be brought up in a pro-Arab Web forum and everyone would agree with it, I am sure.

I also believe that it is impossible to create a similar list that Israelis or Zionists would agree with, point-by-point. Try me.

Moderateman

on Nov 28, 2007

Jews protecting their loved ones from rocket attacks= terrorists warmongers

Arabs launching rockets into hospitals and schools and homes in Israel= freedom fighters

How can anyone argue with logic like this?

Leauki

on Nov 28, 2007

Moderateman,

You know the dictionary.

But the point here is that most (if not all) supporters of the "Palestinian cause" will happily agree with every one of the 14 statements. They are always trying to present their position as already a compromise. (What is the compromise between killing all the Jews and not killing them?)

They are dumb. They really are.

They will _always_ back up their position by referring to the poor "Palestinians", but they will NEVER even for a moment consider that the same humanistic principles should also apply to Jews.

The fact that the "Palestinian cause" was originally an off-shoot of German Nazi ideology doesn't stop lefties from supporting it AND from accusing Israel of being the new Nazis, even though Israel is doing exactly what the Warsaw ghetto was doing, and for the same reason.

adnauseam

on Nov 28, 2007

I'm sorry if I sound sceptical but some battles go back many generations and this is one of them. The Palestine/Israel question is extremely complicated and I'll be surprised if Annapolis works. I'll be elated if something comes out of it but don't hold your breath.

Dubya is to be commended for putting it together but his peace prize is going to be a lot tougher to get than Al Gore's.

Leauki

on Nov 28, 2007

Annapolis will not solve the basic problem. And the basic problem is Arab nationalist attitude towards non-Arab peoples.

But Abbas might be weak enough to sign anything. Not that that helps... the Arabs won't be true to their word anyway, they were not the last time.

Perhaps this time the words "even if you want to start an Intifada" should be added to the peace treaty, to clarify matters.

I don't think the Arabs will be happy unless all middle-eastern Jews are finally deported to Europe and America.

danielost

on Nov 28, 2007

i think the one i like best is that all Jews in Israel are really Nazis

the Arabs didn't want that land until the Jews moved in and worked hard and made it bloom. the same thing with Egypt and the Sinai

Dr Guy

on Nov 28, 2007

Dubya is to be commended for putting it together but his peace prize is going to be a lot tougher to get than Al Gore's.

Considering Gore got it, I dont see how anyone can really want it now. That was, is and always will be just a big joke.

Moderateman

on Nov 28, 2007

It is not about the People of palestine {a non existent country} it is about hatred plain and simple, No matter what the Jews give it will NEVER BE ENOUGH, the Arabs want the Jews either all gone from the middle east, or all dead, either one of these two solutions works for the Arabs, the representative from Saudi Arabia, refused to even shake the hand of the Jewish Prime minister, this goes along with the denial of the Saudis that a Jewish state even exists! The "WORD" of any Arab except for Anwar Sadat is worthless concerning Infidels and for Sadat's troubles he was murdered in cold blood for making peace with the HATED JEWS!

As for the Nobel peace prize It lost any meaning after it was given to Yasser Arafat, then Jimmy Carter, the only ex-President to betray a sitting President and is in my opinion as big a Jew hater as they come. Peace prizes now have one criteria in my opinion, if it makes America look bad, you win the prize.

Leauki

on Nov 29, 2007

15. The "Palestinian" refugees "expelled" by Israel have a right to return.

16. The Jews of Hebron do not.

Leauki

on Nov 29, 2007

I suggest the conference in Annapolis start with a Quran reading:

"To Moses We [Allah] gave nine clear signs. Ask the Israelites how he [Moses] first appeared amongst them. Pharoah said to him: 'Moses, I can see that you are bewitched.' 'You know full well,' he [Moses] replied, 'that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has revealed these visible signs. Pharoah, you are doomed.'"

"Pharoah sought to scare them [the Israelites] out of the land [of Israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land [the Land of Israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the Israelites] all together [in the Land of Israel]."

"We [Allah] have revealed the Qur'an with the truth, and with the truth it has come down. We have sent you [Muhammed] forth only to proclaim good news and to give warning."

[Qur'an, "Night Journey," chapter 17:100-104]

"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.'" [Qur'an 5:20-21]

Leauki

on Nov 29, 2007

(Weird)

Leauki

on Nov 29, 2007

Ask the Saudi representative if there is any part of the Quran that is not true and when a public reading would not enlighten people.

ParaTed2k

on Dec 24, 2007

Merry Christmas, Leauki!

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