this is my theory only so say what you want.


the civ that Noah and family came from was Atlantis. they had the same or similar tech that we have. it is a possibility that the UFOs are ships from a city that was launched into space before the flood.


this city is in a very large orbit.


Noah and his sons would have split up and become four people.

the blurring of language in the bible wouldn't be that hard to do.

how many languages are spoken in the united states. it is a lot more than 5 and they are mostly English. every job in the country has it's own language and we all/most also speak English/American.


OK tell how stupid this idea is. but be nice.

they have found a city just off the coast of india one that is like 100 feet under water.

sorry guys i have to turn to the book of morman.


the Indians came from Israel shortly after they had moved into the area. thus they would have known about pyramids.

i would go further but i would probable upset gid. with something that doesn't quite fit with the church's teachings but not by much.

this one is easy to answer. there is no "0" year in the Julian-Gregorian calendar.

this is why we have an argument every turn of the century as to when that is, the zero year or the year 1.

Either to help you understand, or to give you comic relief, I'll take a stab at a few of these! :~D




When people feel inadequate to face the trials of living, they often turn to government (in whatever form) to save them from themselves (and each other). Even in our free society, there are many who want the government to make life better for them. If enough people decide that's a better way to go, they eventually grant the government all power (so the people don't have to worry about anything).

We've seen extreme examples of it in our day. There were a lot of slaves who chose to stay at the plantations, even if conditions there didn't improve much after they were free. When Allied troops liberated the concentration camps, there were many Jews who refused to leave. Hugo Chavez seized businesses and private property in Nicaragua, and most of the people of that nation Defend him. Every year, the working poor in the US are given over $3000 in Earned Income Credit. How many of them use that money to improve their lot in life? Almost all of them thank the government for being so wonderful, spend it frivolously, then get on with their lives, looking forward to the next check. In the aftermath of Natural Disasters in the US, people are given $2000 FEMA cards, plywood, tarpaper and other supplies to them to help them start rebuilding their homes and their lives. How much of those dollars and supplies are used to start over... and how many of the people spend the money, let the supplies go to waste, then spend their days complaining that the government didn't do it all for them?

Scriptures are full of stories about people who started out free, but chose bondage... thinking it means security. Consider the example of the Children of Israel. As soon as things got really rough, many of them longed for the chains and mud pits.



We are kind of funny when it comes to measuring time. The Big Bang theory says that the universe started as a singularity that exploded and has been expanding ever since.

So, if the universe is expanding, doesn't that mean that everything in it is expanding at a proportional rate? Doesn't that mean that this constant we call "time" isn't a constant at all? Could it be that in the early days of earth, what we now call a "year" and a "day" was different... on the same token, will time be the same 5,000 of what we call "years" from now?





That depends on if there was really a Pangea or not. We are told that human life began in Africa, but if human beings began in Pangea, then who knows what how much they travelled between the regions that became the separate continents?

Like time, we treat geography as a static thing. Even though we acknowledge that it isn't.

Also, the account of Noah includes the wives of his sons. Each of them brought the seed of their ancestry along for the ride. Lots wife (for instance) was Black.




Look at what we do with recent past. Were the Pilgrims religious people longing for freedom to worship how they please; or were they religious zealots who left hearth and home to escape "those people" who believed differently than themselves? Or did religion play any part at all? I've read and been taught all three.

Did Johnny Appleseed, Paul Bunyan, Robin Hood, King Aurthur, Qetsequatle, or the Great Pumkin ever actually exist? If it weren't for diaries and journals of the time, would we actually believe that Davey Jones killed a "bar" when he was only 3? Did George Washington ever cut down a cherry tree? Did Betsy Ross really sew the first US flag?

Looking at it another way, if 10,000 years from now a group of archeologists unearthed a city of the long desolate North American Continent, what conclusions would they come up with from what they found. If the dig was in Kansas how different would their impression be if they unearthed the ruins of New York City. If the catastrophy struck in winter, wouldn't their find tell a different story than if it all ended in the summer? Especially if the concepts of Winter and Summer weren't known to them.

What is left of the deep past? It could be right in front of our faces, but since we are looking at it through the filter of our own understanding of the evidence... we miss it completely.

Johnny Appleseed yes


Paul Bunyan no or maybe if he was a composite of all of the lumberjacks.


Robin Hood yes


King Aurthur yes

Qetsequatle Christ

the Great Pumpkin have to ask Linus

Curious...how do you know this?

Nope. Go to town on Mormon historical interpretation. I left the church a long, long time ago and do not profess to be an expert as to its teachings. While I will speak out against what I feel are clear prejudicial errors in the church, I leave church teachings to those who are actually IN the church, preferably those who are in the priesthood.

according to church teachings the nephites(Indians) come here from Israel via Africa.

according science they came here from china.


according to what i read in the book of Mormon 1st nephi chapter 17-1. when they left Israel they traveled east for many years.

i may not have been clear enough but grammar isn't the issue.

any enterprise which imposes special requirements, restrictions and/or prohibitions on its female members is not gender neutral. that goes double when penile circumcision is THE key requirement for full participation.

NaCl may be offwhite but black?   

Eek! Not Lot's wife, Ham's wife. Oops. There would be a pun too precious to pass up if it were Ham's wife that was turned to a pillar of salt. ;~D

After the flood, the sons of Noah took their wives and settled different areas. Egypt is refered to in scripture as "The Land of Ham".

Ok Para at leasst you're somewhere in the territory I'd be except for the fact I've always heard it said that Ham's son (not wife) Canaan was black (the curse of Canaan as a possibility). Interestingly whatever the curse, it was not inflicted on the Hamites but on the Cannanites.

So now I ask how do you know that Ham's wife was black? We know nothing about her at all from scripture.

They all got on the boat I assumed as the same race as it says the whole earth was one language and one speech. Afterwards Ham's descendants were traced to N. Africa as detailed in Gen 10:6-20.

she was a cainnite as the bible said.

This questions had been answered long time ago by Egyptologists. They even developed a saying about Egypt that goes like this: "If God did not give the Egyptians a Pharaoh they will make one". The reason is very simple. And, believe it or not, out of necessity. IT IS THE NILE .....

The Nile made its land, created its customs and shaped its personality. It is a magnificent and powerful river with a dictatorial behavior. It is a deep, very deep indeed as rivers go with no side outlets.until the middle kingdom it was just one stream from deep in Africa till the Med. Sea. They made a second branch for it then north of Cairo (200-mile strtetch to the sea) . the 1300+ miles to the south of Cairo are just ONE deep stream. When it floods (and it does EVERY year in the summer) it just overflows and floods everything.

You cant control and tame that river locally or regionally. They needed to build an irrigation system that can serve EVRYONE from the south to the north (1500 mile long and covers the whole valey)and do it in a way that can avoid fighting and starving.

They created an Irrigation system for that river that has no equal in the world even today. They dug main branches, from which small branches then ending in small canals running between the fields allover the country with flow control gates at points of intersection. The hydraulic design of that system still being studied in Ivy-league colleges for its ingenuity and effeciency. No pumping or artificial lifting except at the point of use (the fields) and that is done for over 7000 yrs by water wheels run by cows and buffalo(and sometimes Donkeys and Camels but not normally).This system MUST be controled and regulated by a central authority to make sure no one is flooded and no one starves. Hence THE PHARAOH. Nowadays it is the Prsident .... but he still behaves exactly like a Pharaoh.

That is how they got that way. .

In fact, Sudan and Egypt are naturally tied in the same way by the River. They used to be ONE country. but Sudan asked to be independent in 1950's and they got it. Still the two countries have a joint authority to manage the river.

That River dictates the life along its banks and they stretch deep into Africa for 6000+ miles, but its impact on Egypt is the most obvious.