A Leauki's Writings
Published on November 13, 2009 By Leauki In War on Terror

I mentioned in a previous post that there is a war going on in Pakistan.

https://forums.joeuser.com/368848

Since 2004 the Pakistani government has been fighting the Taliban and affiliated terrorists and so far the results are astounding:

- 16,000 deaths

- among those 6000 civilians

- terrorists are here not counted as "civilians"

 

At the same time Israel (and to a lesser extent the PLO) has been fighting a war against Hamas and affiliated terrorists in Gaza and surrounding areas. There, in the same timeframe, the result are as follows:

- less than 2500 deaths

- among those less than 400 civilians

 

Assuming that "criticism of Israel" is not Anti-Semitism, can anybody explain to me why there have been huge demonstrations against Israel, including calls for all Jews to die in gas chambers, and an UN investigation into war crimes Israel has most certainly committed (no proof is needed, no evidence either), while nobody demonstrates against Pakistan or demands that all Pakistanis be killed (or that Pakistan should be destroyed)?

I myself feel that there might be just a tiny bit of Anti-Semitism behind those anti-Israel demonstrations. But I am certainly wrong, am I not? So what is the reason? Is it the purest of coincidences?

 

Similarly I find that Israel is often compared to Nazi Germany. Now, I think that this comparison is Anti-Semitism. But I am sure there is another explanation. Perhaps it is coincidence. Perhaps the "peace activists" who use the comparison wanted to compare Israel with, say, Soviet Russia or China or some other bad guy and then just by accident and without intent to offend Jews, accidentally and without specific purpose chose Nazi Germany, a country that killed 6 million Jews and was allied with the same forces Israel is still fighting.

 

And thirdly, while we are at it, I have seen "peace activists" use the term "Holocaust" to describe what Israel is doing to "Palestinians". Again, assuming that Anti-Semitism has nothing to do with it, I want to learn how such a coincidence could happen. Do many people simply not know that the (real) Holocaust was not about Germany using "excessive force" to kill a few Jews who had planned to destroy Germany and attacked Germans? Were those same people unable to find any other event they could use for the ridiculous comparison of genocide and self-defence? And was it coincidence or some tragic mistake that made them, again, choose a comparison that was likely to offend many relatives of (real) victims of the (real) Holocaust still alive in Israel?

 

Can anybody contribute other examples of obvious non-Anti-Semitism like the above?

I want to continue to enjoy this world that is almost free of Anti-Semitism, a world in which no huge demonstrations are organised by Anti-Semites and in which the only source what of looks like Anti-Semitism is coincidence.

Next year, my friends who support the "Palestinian Cause", let's all celebrate May 14th in memory of May 14th 1948, the day Anti-Semitism ended!

Or can you name a single major Anti-Semitic incident after May 15th 1948? I can't. All the major "kill all the Jews" events since then have been coincidences, tragic mistakes, cultural misunderstandings, and attempts to liberate "Palestine".

In fact I sometimes wonder, if Germany had won World War 2, and her Arab allies had come to rule Israel, would Adolph Hitler still be a Nazi?

There is an old joke about Star Wars Imperial Storm Troopers (who never hit anything) and Star Trek Red-Shirted Ensigns (who always get killed). What would happen if a band of Imperial Storm Troopers were to engage Red-Shirted Ensigns in battle?

Similarly, I can imagine a situation in an alternate universe where Nazi Germany has won WW2, Yassir Arafat and his uncle and mentor, Hitler's friend, liberate "Palestine" from the Zionists and celebrate their alliance with Nazi Germany and the death of all Jews despite the fact that Hitler is an evil Nazi whereas the militant victors of the "Palestinian Cause" whereas the "Palestinian Cause" is the extreme opposite of fascism and not Anti-Semitic at all.

Would the room explode in that situation?

 

In that sense, kill more Jews for food and water for "Palestine"! All the best.

 


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on Nov 16, 2009

This is a valuable source of information:

http://arabsforisrael.blogspot.com/2009/08/recent-letters_02.html

However:

david said...

from sudan

hi there .. I respect your efforts ..
but last time I supported israel in the internet , telling my personal information , I was arrested from my house in khartoum (the capital )and I was beaten for 7 days , my body was crushed like hell , I was studying pharmacy in a university , a lot of academic problems were infticted to me there ..I changed my religion long time ago but I can never tell anyone for fear for my life , my dad is very rich CEO of a super mega company in a gulf arab country , he didn't support me when I told him and inflicted problems for me ( including financial sanctions) , and by the way he is not different from the majority of millions of people here , most of muslim people in sudan think israel should be deleted and happy about what happened in 9 11 ,when a woman here were stoned to death (by "low") for infidality all of them said it was right -they should say so because this is the punishment for infidality for married person according to the share'a low-

I am afraid we people here in arabs for israel need alot of work ...

I wonder whether western liberals simply ignore these things when they claim that the "Palestinian Cause" is about "food and water" for "Palestinians" or whether that is actually what they want.

Speak out for Israel, or for peace, and the "Palestinian Cause" tortures you.

I wonder if western liberals really do believe that the Zionist Cause is more evil than the "Palestinian Cause", resulting in constant surprise when they demonstrate against Israel and are neither beaten up nor punished by their university if they are students.

Of course, the "Palestinian Cause" can only torture you where it has the power to do so. In the west it's still safe; for the moment. But liberals are working on it. We have already reached the stage where supporters of Israel dare not be identified as such in public.

When will we have reached the point where they are no longer safe at all, and will liberals acknowledge their responsibility for that situation?

(In Germany the police are already breaking into apartments to remove Israeli flags from windows. Even Nazi Germany before 1938 acknowledged the Jews' right to display Jewish flags!)

 

on Nov 16, 2009

Leauki


However:

david said...

from sudan

hi there .. I respect your efforts ..
but last time I supported israel in the internet , telling my personal information , I was arrested from my house in khartoum (the capital )and I was beaten for 7 days , my body was crushed like hell , I was studying pharmacy in a university , a lot of academic problems were infticted to me there ..I changed my religion long time ago but I can never tell anyone for fear for my life , my dad is very rich CEO of a super mega company in a gulf arab country , he didn't support me when I told him and inflicted problems for me ( including financial sanctions) , and by the way he is not different from the majority of millions of people here , most of muslim people in sudan think israel should be deleted and happy about what happened in 9 11 ,when a woman here were stoned to death (by "low") for infidality all of them said it was right -they should say so because this is the punishment for infidality for married person according to the share'a low-

I am afraid we people here in arabs for israel need alot of work ...

I wonder whether western liberals simply ignore these things when they claim that the "Palestinian Cause" is about "food and water" for "Palestinians" or whether that is actually what they want.


 

What religion did David switch to? How many times did take the Israeli flag down happen in Germany? I've only heard it happen one time. (not that that is good either)

on Nov 16, 2009

What religion did David switch to?

I don't know. But given that he is from Sudan and his name is "David", I guess he converted from Islam to Christianity.

 

How many times did take the Israeli flag down happen in Germany? I've only heard it happen one time. (not that that is good either)

It happened only once, but that was recent.

And not many people have Israeli flags in their windows. The flag in question was the only one in that city.

My point was that people are afraid to show those colours and the one who was not had his apartment broken into by the police because of it.

 

on Nov 16, 2009

I figured as much that he became a believer.  Most arabs that become believers usually accept Israel and that the promised one came from them.

It happened only once, but that was recent.

And not many people have Israeli flags in their windows. The flag in question was the only one in that city.

My point was that people are afraid to show those colours and the one who was not had his apartment broken into by the police because of it.

I wasn't asking that question in order to discredit.  I was just under the impression that it only happened once and as I said before once is enough.

But we live in a world full of political correctness non-sense. Anything that can be seen as being offensive must go, which can be offensive in of itself.

 

on Nov 16, 2009

If native american's started performing suicide bombings instead of running casinos... would liberals demand a return of occupied land to them?

How about Mexicans (mexico occupied the land of the native americans... lands which included texas and california until the USA conquered it in the mexican american war).

End the occupation in the USA! [/sarcasm]

on Nov 16, 2009

I figured as much that he became a believer.  Most arabs that become believers usually accept Israel and that the promised one came from them.

Yes. Which is why I am totally in favour of Christian missionary work in the Muslim world. It makes people happier and peaceful. But note that many Christian Arabs who are not recent converts to Christianity are usually more nationalistic than the Muslims.

But as for Sudan, I was actually reading an interview with a Christian minister in Khartoum in German. I am looking for an English version and want to find out how to give money to the (presumably Oriental Orthodox, i.e. Egyptian) church in Sudan. When I find an address I will write a blog entry here asking people to donate. I will.

 

I wasn't asking that question in order to discredit.  I was just under the impression that it only happened once and as I said before once is enough.

I knew that you weren't asking out of disbelief. And it only happened once. But then the open display of an Israeli flag didn't happen very often either. It was certainly the first time ever I had seen or heard of an Israeli flag in a German apartment window. Nobody knows if this would have happened more often if more Israeli flags had been seen.

Now it's clear that the police won't do this any more. People are watching them.

And the worse Muslims behave, the more friendly Europeans become towards Israel. The evil Jews are not so evil when one sees what they are fighting.

 

But we live in a world full of political correctness non-sense. Anything that can be seen as being offensive must go, which can be offensive in of itself.

I find Arab flags (the nationalist ones that the Nazis used) and the word "Palestine" incredibly offensive. But political correctness does not protect Jews from being offended. That is apparently not part of the deal.

on Nov 16, 2009

If native american's started performing suicide bombings instead of running casinos... would liberals demand a return of occupied land to them?

ETA, a Basque terrorist organisation, does something like that in Spain.

And guess what... the same Spanish government that calls on Israel to talk to the terrorists and grant them autonomy or independence and give them control over Jewish holy sites, will not talk to ETA, will not grant independence to the Basque country and certainly wouldn't let the Basques or some terrorists rule Madrid.

Once you are Spanish, you are good. But for a Jew, they have different ideas.

 

on Nov 17, 2009

http://bak-shalom.de/index.php/2009/09/13/antiisraelischer-aufmarsch-zum-al-quds-tag-in-berlin-polizei-untergrabt-zivilgesellschaftliches-engagement-gegen-antisemitismus/

According to this article on the Web site of the BAK Shalom (a pro-Zionist caucus of the German socialist party), the German police reacted to the September 13th "Al-Quds" day (when Islamists and Neo-Nazis demonstrate for the destruction of Israel) by prohibiting the use of English and Hebrew signs in the counter-demonstration.

Specifically posters demanding the release of Gilad Shalith were not allowed.

 

 

 

 

on Nov 17, 2009

everyone knows that islamic jihad and nazism are pure, peaceful expressions of freedom of speech, but hebrew and english are offensive. [/sarcasm]

on Nov 18, 2009

If the status of "East" Jerusalem is supposed to be subject to a future agreement, how come Arabs are allowed to build there but Jews are not?

 

on Nov 18, 2009

Check out the video embedded here:

http://www.israellycool.com/2009/11/18/the-day-in-israel-wed-nov-18th-2009/

The reformer ("former terrorist") does not mention gay rights, but I assume he is more open to them then representatives of the "Palestinian Cause".

 

on Nov 20, 2009

You know, this is really funny.

The biggest feminist magazine in the USA refused to run an ad that showed how powerful and equal women are in israel... it was offensive to them.

When it blew up in their face, they eventually backtracked and claimed that it was because the ad showed 3 women in high position of government in Israel, where 2 were from party A and 1 from party B... and claimed that was "unfair representation" and the reason for the rejection... They did not rescind the rejection though.

Similarly, the largest green mag rejected ads showing how israel is the only country in the world with a net gain of trees, and how advanced its preservation and ecological systems and technologies are... that was also deemed offensive to those who hate israel.

on Nov 20, 2009

The biggest feminist magazine in the USA refused to run an ad that showed how powerful and equal women are in israel... it was offensive to them.

When it blew up in their face, they eventually backtracked and claimed that it was because the ad showed 3 women in high position of government in Israel, where 2 were from party A and 1 from party B... and claimed that was "unfair representation" and the reason for the rejection... They did not rescind the rejection though.

Similarly, the largest green mag rejected ads showing how israel is the only country in the world with a net gain of trees, and how advanced its preservation and ecological systems and technologies are... that was also deemed offensive to those who hate israel.

Yes. That doesn't surprise me.

They know their customers.

I think part of it is simply xenophobia and Anti-Semitism working together. Israeli Jews, Jews from the Middle-East, are both Jewish AND foreign. Few things are worse for those who truly believe that only liberals in the west have ever moved society forward.

(Homosexuality was legal in the Ottoman Empire a hundred years before it was legalised in the west. The only reason it was ever officially illegal in modern Israel was because the British brought the prohibition with them to "Palestine".)

 

on Nov 20, 2009

oh... and in israel openly homosexual people can serve in the army, marry, and adopt children. But most homosexuals also are offended by israel's very existence because their liberal news outlet say it is evil. The poor arabs who execute homosexuals are the good guys in their eyes. Hillarious.

on Nov 20, 2009

oh... and in israel openly homosexual people can serve in the army, marry, and adopt children. But most homosexuals also are offended by israel's very existence because their liberal news outlet say it is evil. The poor arabs who execute homosexuals are the good guys in their eyes. Hillarious.

It would be hilarious if it were bizarro world.

But it's real.

Both Jews and homosexuals are persecuted by the same people. And the same applies to many other groups.

But many homosexuals, like, again, many of the others, are quite happy to join the persecution of Jews, if given half a chance.

The existence of Middle-Eastern Jews offends many people.

 

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